When TigerBlog first started working at Princeton, he read something that said that the Tigers had at least one team or individual national champion and had won the Ivy League's all-sports points championship for a certain number of years. Both numbers, coincidentally, were the same.
So, every time Princeton has either won the points championship or won a national championship in each successive year, TB has simply added another number to the previous year's.
When the men's lightweight rowing team won the national championship earlier this month, it kept the streak alive for 2009-10. Last year was 23 straight, so that made it 24 straight.
At least that's what TB thought. So he went with it, talking about how impressive it was for the school to have at least one champion each of those years.
Now, two weeks later, the streak just got a little more impressive.
It started Monday, when Gary Walters asked TB to put together a list of who had won the national championships for each year of the streak. It's actually something that TB should have done awhile ago and always thought about doing.
In retrospect, he should have done it years ago.
TB started by writing down each of the last 24 years and then started filling in the championships from each year, which he got out of the record books for each sport. Eventually, he filled in every year going back 24 years, which would be the year 1987.
Only he noticed that in 1986, the men's lightweight rowing team won the national title. As did Demer Holleran in women's squash.
And back it went from there. 1985? Men's heavyweight rowing. 1984? Women's squash.
In fact, TB was able to go all the way back to 1972, when Wendy Zaharko won the women's squash individual national championship.
Instead of a 24-year streak, it's actually a 39-year streak. That's 39 straight years with at least one team or individual national champion.
Twice during that streak, Princeton had four teams win a national title. On the other hand, there were four years when Princeton had no team national champion but did have a single individual win.
From 1972 until 1984, Princeton had a team or individual (or both) in squash win the national title. Between 1992 and 2003, Princeton won nine NCAA lacrosse championships (six for the men, three for the women).
And yes, all of these national titles have occurred in either rowing, squash, fencing, lacrosse, swimming and diving or track and field. As TB said when he thought it was 24, though, it's still impressive.
What about next year? Who knows. The streak has to end at some point. Still, there will be no shortage of contenders.
If Princeton does get one, it'll be 40 straight years, not 25.
The Ivy League all-sports championship? If Princeton can win again, that'd be 25.
Well, at least TB has always thought so.
Maybe he should go look that up also.
While he does that, here's the complete list of Princeton national champions from 1972-2010:
2010 – men’s lightweight rowing
2009 – men’s lightweight rowing, women’s squash
2008 – women’s squash
2007 – women’s squash
2006 – women’s open rowing (1st varsity 8), Yasser El Halaby (squash),
2005 – Yasser El Halaby (squash)
2004 – Yasser El Halaby (squash)
2003 – women’s lightweight rowing, women’s lacrosse, Yasser El Halaby (squash)
2002 – women’s lightweight rowing, women’s lacrosse, Tora Harris (indoor and outdoor high jump)
2001 – women’s lightweight rowing, men’s lacrosse, Soren Thompson (epee fencing), David Yik (men’s squash
2000 – women’s lightweight rowing, Eva Petchnigg (foil fencing), Julia Beaver (women’s squash), Peter Yik (men’s squash
1999 – women’s squash, women’s lightweight rowing, Julia Beaver (women’s squash), Peter Yik (men’s squash)
1998 – men’s lacrosse, men’s heavweight rowing, men’s lightweight rowing, women’s squash
1997 – men’s lacrosse, Katherine Johnson (women’s squash)
1996 – men’s lacrosse, men’s lightweight rowing, men’s heavyweight rowing, Max Pekarev (saber fencing)
1995 – women’s open rowing
1994 – men’s lacrosse, women’s lacrosse, men’s lightweight rowing, women’s open rowing, Harald Winkmann (epee fencing)
1993 – men’s squash, women’s open rowing
1992 – men’s lacrosse
1991 – women’s squash
1990 – women’s open rowing, men’s swimming 200-yard medley relay (Mike Ross, Ty Nelson, Leroy Kim, Erik Osborn)
1989 – men’s lightweight rowing , women’s squash, Demer Holleran (women’s squash), Jeff Stanley (men’s squash), men’s swimming 200-yard medley relay (Mike Ross, Ty Nelson, Rich Korhammer, Rob Musslewhite)
1988 – men’s lightweight rowing, Jeff Stanley (men’s squash)
1987 – Demer Holleran (women’s squash)
1986 – men’s lightweight rowing, Demer Holleran (women’s squash)
1985 – men’s heavyweight rowing
1984 – women’s squash
1983 – women’s squash
1982 – men’s squash
1981 – women’s squash, John Nimik (men’s squash)
1980 – women’s squash
1979 – women’s squash
1978 - women’s squash
1977 – men’s squash
1976 – women’s squash, Nancy Gengler (women’s squash)
1975 – women’s squash, men’s squash, Wendy Zaharko (women’s squash)
1974 – women’s squash, men’s squash, Wendy Zaharko (women’s squash)
1973 – women’s squash, Cathy Corcione (100 butterfly, 100 free), 200-yard freestyle relay (Cathy Corcione, Jane Fremon, Barb Franks, Carol Brown)
1972 – Wendy Zaharko (women’s squash), Charlie Campbell (200-yard backstroke)
Wednesday, June 16, 2010
Tuesday, June 15, 2010
Those Annoying Vuvuzelas
TigerBlog rarely goes anywhere without his hand sanitizer. He prefers Germ-X, though the CVS store brand isn't bad either. And of course there is Purell, the granddaddy of them all.
Clearly, TigerBlog's biggest objection to the vuvuzelas that are currently sounding like locusts during World Cup telecasts isn't the incessant noise. Nope. It's the fact that, at least according to Wikipedia, the vuvuzelas are known to spread flu and cold germs on a much larger scale than simply sneezing and coughing.
TigerBlog is okay with the idea that the people who run the World Cup are allowing the vuvuzelas to continue to be blown at the event. For one thing, they are part of the local tradition. And for another, TB isn't sitting in the stadium getting someone else's spit on the back of his neck.
Plus, if you watch one game for 15 minutes, you don't even hear the horns anymore.
As an aside, the vuvuzelas would never fly at a Princeton event, or any other college event for that matter. Jeremy Hartigan, the head of Cornell athletic communications, made this announcement at the Ivy League softball championship series: "The use of artificial noisemakers is prohibited by NCAA rules, so stop doing it."
Scott Bradley, the Princeton baseball coach, is the brother of U.S. national team coach Bob Bradley. Scott is hoping that Bob doesn't bring any vuvuzelas home for his nephews.
At the risk of beating the subject to death, TigerBlog once again will say that there has never been a comparable moment in Princeton athletic history as having an alum and former head coach lead the U.S. national team at the World Cup. Princeton has produced Olympic coaches, professional coaches, major college coaches and the like, but it has never had a coach with this level of international renown - and scrutiny.
The positive impact on Princeton - and Princeton soccer - that Bradley's position has had began the minute he was named national team coach. It skyrocketed when the Americans held their training camp at Princeton before the World Cup, and it's reached an even higher level now that play has begun.
As everyone knows by now, the U.S. team opened the World Cup with a 1-1 tie with England. The U.S. gave up an early goal, which TB felt gave them more time to get even as opposed to being the end of the game, and the Americans got some help from the English goalkeeper to do just that.
TigerBlog feels badly for English 'keeper Robert Green, who will only be able to live that moment down if 1) England wins the group and 2) he does something spectacular later in the tournament, such as a big stop on a penalty kick to help his team advance
Of course, England has never won a World Cup knockout game that has gone to penalty kicks. And how does TB know this? He heard the announcer on the Ivory Coast-Portugal game say it.
TB loves the difference between the American announcers - TB's favorite is Alexi Lalas, who says what's on his mind rather than just saying that everyone is great - and their British counterpart. The Brits sound like American baseball announcers in the 1930s and 1940s, while the Americans need to have an "edge" while "breaking down" the games.
The British use words like "tragedy" and "catastrophe" to describe big swings in the action. They use the word "unhappily" all the time; how many NFL games this season will have the word "unhappily" used be an announcer?
Getting back to Green and his misplay, TB thought that The Register had a great piece on the situation.
It wasn't only the videos in the piece, which are hilarious, especially the one with the uncle and the boy who reenact the goal (five minutes after it happened, by the way). It's also the point it makes about how the world has changed, that instead of reading what sportswriters in newspapers wrote, the world was able to get immediate feedback on blogs and from videos and from blogs with embedded video.
Next up for the Americans is Slovenia Friday morning. Scott Bradley is worried about how well the Slovenians defend, or at least that's what he said when he stopped in to watch Ivory Coast-Portugal for a few minutes.
The pressure on the Americans in that game will be enormous, since Slovenia already has three points from beating Algeria. And, of course, you want to win the group, since you'll probably avoid Germany in the knockout round if you do.
TigerBlog would have rooted for America anyway. With Bob Bradley as the U.S. coach, though, it's a combination of rooting for America - and Princeton.
Clearly, TigerBlog's biggest objection to the vuvuzelas that are currently sounding like locusts during World Cup telecasts isn't the incessant noise. Nope. It's the fact that, at least according to Wikipedia, the vuvuzelas are known to spread flu and cold germs on a much larger scale than simply sneezing and coughing.
TigerBlog is okay with the idea that the people who run the World Cup are allowing the vuvuzelas to continue to be blown at the event. For one thing, they are part of the local tradition. And for another, TB isn't sitting in the stadium getting someone else's spit on the back of his neck.
Plus, if you watch one game for 15 minutes, you don't even hear the horns anymore.
As an aside, the vuvuzelas would never fly at a Princeton event, or any other college event for that matter. Jeremy Hartigan, the head of Cornell athletic communications, made this announcement at the Ivy League softball championship series: "The use of artificial noisemakers is prohibited by NCAA rules, so stop doing it."
Scott Bradley, the Princeton baseball coach, is the brother of U.S. national team coach Bob Bradley. Scott is hoping that Bob doesn't bring any vuvuzelas home for his nephews.
At the risk of beating the subject to death, TigerBlog once again will say that there has never been a comparable moment in Princeton athletic history as having an alum and former head coach lead the U.S. national team at the World Cup. Princeton has produced Olympic coaches, professional coaches, major college coaches and the like, but it has never had a coach with this level of international renown - and scrutiny.
The positive impact on Princeton - and Princeton soccer - that Bradley's position has had began the minute he was named national team coach. It skyrocketed when the Americans held their training camp at Princeton before the World Cup, and it's reached an even higher level now that play has begun.
As everyone knows by now, the U.S. team opened the World Cup with a 1-1 tie with England. The U.S. gave up an early goal, which TB felt gave them more time to get even as opposed to being the end of the game, and the Americans got some help from the English goalkeeper to do just that.
TigerBlog feels badly for English 'keeper Robert Green, who will only be able to live that moment down if 1) England wins the group and 2) he does something spectacular later in the tournament, such as a big stop on a penalty kick to help his team advance
Of course, England has never won a World Cup knockout game that has gone to penalty kicks. And how does TB know this? He heard the announcer on the Ivory Coast-Portugal game say it.
TB loves the difference between the American announcers - TB's favorite is Alexi Lalas, who says what's on his mind rather than just saying that everyone is great - and their British counterpart. The Brits sound like American baseball announcers in the 1930s and 1940s, while the Americans need to have an "edge" while "breaking down" the games.
The British use words like "tragedy" and "catastrophe" to describe big swings in the action. They use the word "unhappily" all the time; how many NFL games this season will have the word "unhappily" used be an announcer?
Getting back to Green and his misplay, TB thought that The Register had a great piece on the situation.
It wasn't only the videos in the piece, which are hilarious, especially the one with the uncle and the boy who reenact the goal (five minutes after it happened, by the way). It's also the point it makes about how the world has changed, that instead of reading what sportswriters in newspapers wrote, the world was able to get immediate feedback on blogs and from videos and from blogs with embedded video.
Next up for the Americans is Slovenia Friday morning. Scott Bradley is worried about how well the Slovenians defend, or at least that's what he said when he stopped in to watch Ivory Coast-Portugal for a few minutes.
The pressure on the Americans in that game will be enormous, since Slovenia already has three points from beating Algeria. And, of course, you want to win the group, since you'll probably avoid Germany in the knockout round if you do.
TigerBlog would have rooted for America anyway. With Bob Bradley as the U.S. coach, though, it's a combination of rooting for America - and Princeton.
Monday, June 14, 2010
The Great Big Ivy 8
TigerBlog thinks it was Chuck Yrigoyen, then with the Ivy League and now the commissioner of the Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, who came up with the idea of changing the official name of the conference that Princeton is in to either "The Big Ivy" or "The Great Ivy."
Ultimately, that name was expanded to "The Great Big Ivy 8." Jokingly, of course.
TigerBlog always thinks to that exchange when the subject of conference realignments in college athletics comes up. While chaos reigns all around, there is no place more stable than the Great Big Ivy 8.
Let's see if TB has it all straight.
Nebraska has decided after 103 years of affiliation with the same basic core group of schools that it is clearly a much better fit for the Big 10, while Colorado has decided it would rather be the easternmost team in the Pac-10 rather than the westernmost team in the Big 12.
Texas, apparently loving its role as kingmaker, is at the center of the rest of what will happen. Will the Big 12 survive? Will Texas bolt with Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10? Texas A&M feels it's a better fit for the SEC, so will the Aggies go that way?
And where does that leave Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri? And Iowa State?
And what about Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt and Louisville? Will they end up in a supersized Big 10? If so, what happens to the Big East? Will Army and Navy end up in the Big East, at least for football?
And why is all of this happening? Why are schools willing to walk away from existing stability and decades-old rivalries and conferences?
Money, of course.
The Big 10 has hit it big with its TV network. The SEC just signed a mind-boggling TV contract. The Pac-10 is on the verge of going the Big 10 route.
As an aside, you can blame the Yankees for all this if you want, as they were the first to create their own network, which they then used to completely distort the entire economic balance of Major League Baseball.
TigerBlog can't believe how easily all of these schools are willing to change everything, all to pursue the last dollar out there. Is that what college athletics are about?
In the case of Nebraska, the school has said that it had to act before Missouri, which openly lobbied for the Big 10, did. This would be the same Big 10 that is trying to get to the minimum number of 12, which would allow it a football championship game.
All of this is driven by football, which is where the dollars are. The problem, as TB always says, is that college athletics may appear on the outside to be all about big-time football and men's basketball, but in reality there are, as the NCAA so rightfully boasts, a few hundred thousand athletes who are going pro in something other than sports.
The conference realignment is based on football, but it's going to affect so many athletes in so many other sports. In an age where most schools are trying to figure out ways to save money, most of these schools will now have fly their, say, cross country teams and soccer teams, all over the country for every away league competition.
Then there's the Ivy League, which has been an official athletic conference (since 1954) for a lot less time than the Big 10 (1899), SEC (1932), Pac-10 (1915), Big 12 (1907).
There are eight Ivy League schools, and there are going to be eight Ivy League schools no matter what else happens around them in college athletics. The stability is, quite frankly, reassuring, given that people at schools like Kansas, Baylor, Kansas State and Iowa State - not to mention every non-football playing Big East school - have no idea what to expect in the near future. The idea of staying as a "BCS" school isn't set in stone for all of those schools.
Beyond just knowing what league you're in, though, the great beauty of the Ivy League is that football (and men's basketball) don't drive the entire mechanism. In many ways, that's what TB's favorite part of being part of the league is.
Yes, football outdraws every other sport on campus, and yes, basketball gets to play in the premiere NCAA tournament for men and women if they win the league.
But the emphasis here is on broad-based athletic participation. The football coach doesn't make millions and millions of dollars per year, and the entire University doesn't revolve around one athletic program.
It is, after all, supposed to be college sports, not professional sports.
Here at the Great Big Ivy 8, it seems like that message still resonates. Hopefully the rest of college athletics won't completely lose it soul.
Ultimately, that name was expanded to "The Great Big Ivy 8." Jokingly, of course.
TigerBlog always thinks to that exchange when the subject of conference realignments in college athletics comes up. While chaos reigns all around, there is no place more stable than the Great Big Ivy 8.
Let's see if TB has it all straight.
Nebraska has decided after 103 years of affiliation with the same basic core group of schools that it is clearly a much better fit for the Big 10, while Colorado has decided it would rather be the easternmost team in the Pac-10 rather than the westernmost team in the Big 12.
Texas, apparently loving its role as kingmaker, is at the center of the rest of what will happen. Will the Big 12 survive? Will Texas bolt with Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10? Texas A&M feels it's a better fit for the SEC, so will the Aggies go that way?
And where does that leave Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri? And Iowa State?
And what about Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt and Louisville? Will they end up in a supersized Big 10? If so, what happens to the Big East? Will Army and Navy end up in the Big East, at least for football?
And why is all of this happening? Why are schools willing to walk away from existing stability and decades-old rivalries and conferences?
Money, of course.
The Big 10 has hit it big with its TV network. The SEC just signed a mind-boggling TV contract. The Pac-10 is on the verge of going the Big 10 route.
As an aside, you can blame the Yankees for all this if you want, as they were the first to create their own network, which they then used to completely distort the entire economic balance of Major League Baseball.
TigerBlog can't believe how easily all of these schools are willing to change everything, all to pursue the last dollar out there. Is that what college athletics are about?
In the case of Nebraska, the school has said that it had to act before Missouri, which openly lobbied for the Big 10, did. This would be the same Big 10 that is trying to get to the minimum number of 12, which would allow it a football championship game.
All of this is driven by football, which is where the dollars are. The problem, as TB always says, is that college athletics may appear on the outside to be all about big-time football and men's basketball, but in reality there are, as the NCAA so rightfully boasts, a few hundred thousand athletes who are going pro in something other than sports.
The conference realignment is based on football, but it's going to affect so many athletes in so many other sports. In an age where most schools are trying to figure out ways to save money, most of these schools will now have fly their, say, cross country teams and soccer teams, all over the country for every away league competition.
Then there's the Ivy League, which has been an official athletic conference (since 1954) for a lot less time than the Big 10 (1899), SEC (1932), Pac-10 (1915), Big 12 (1907).
There are eight Ivy League schools, and there are going to be eight Ivy League schools no matter what else happens around them in college athletics. The stability is, quite frankly, reassuring, given that people at schools like Kansas, Baylor, Kansas State and Iowa State - not to mention every non-football playing Big East school - have no idea what to expect in the near future. The idea of staying as a "BCS" school isn't set in stone for all of those schools.
Beyond just knowing what league you're in, though, the great beauty of the Ivy League is that football (and men's basketball) don't drive the entire mechanism. In many ways, that's what TB's favorite part of being part of the league is.
Yes, football outdraws every other sport on campus, and yes, basketball gets to play in the premiere NCAA tournament for men and women if they win the league.
But the emphasis here is on broad-based athletic participation. The football coach doesn't make millions and millions of dollars per year, and the entire University doesn't revolve around one athletic program.
It is, after all, supposed to be college sports, not professional sports.
Here at the Great Big Ivy 8, it seems like that message still resonates. Hopefully the rest of college athletics won't completely lose it soul.
Friday, June 11, 2010
Good Luck, Bob
You may have heard that the World Cup starts today.
Of the 32 countries who made it into the field, TigerBlog has been to 10, which is nearly a third of them. Unless you don't count France, since TB was only in the Paris airport as a stopover between New York and Tel Aviv.
In case you care, here are the other nine countries he's been to: the United States, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Mexico, Denmark and Greece.
If he had to pick one of the other countries to go to, he'd probably take Australia, though sitting for that long on a plane isn't exactly enticing. And if TB went to Australia, he'd probably stop off in New Zealand as well.
The last country of the 32 he'd want to go to? No offense to what are probably some fine restaurants in downtown Pyongyang, but TB will pass on North Korea.
TigerBlog thinks that Spain will win the World Cup, defeating either England or the Netherlands in the final (he'd be higher on the Netherlands if Arjen Robben's hamstring was fine); the fourth team in TB's final four will be Brazil. For the record, both TigerBlog Jr. and Little Miss TigerBlog have been to Brazil.
TB was in Spain and Ireland during the 2008 European championships, and unless you've experienced something like that first hand, you can't possibly imagine just how wild a scene that is. Even in Ireland, who wasn't in the tournament, it was hard to find someone who wasn't completely passionate about it.
In the United States, soccer is something of an afterthought as far as major sports go, even though it has come a long way in the last 20 years or so. And, as an aside, TB would be picking the U.S. team win the World Cup if all of the best American athletes played soccer instead of football, basketball and lacrosse.
Anyway, by now the connection between Princeton and the U.S. team is well-known. Bob Bradley, the U.S. coach, played at Princeton and then coached here, taking the Tigers to the 1993 Final Four. One of his assistant coaches is Jesse Marsch, who also played here; the team had its pre-World Cup training camp at Roberts Stadium.
There have been a ton of stories written about Bradley in the last few weeks, and each of them is great publicity for Princeton University and Princeton soccer. One of the better ones was on ESPN.com earlier this week.
These stories all paint Bradley as driven, and they all talk about his life as a kid and then at Princeton. In almost all of them, there have been quotes by Princeton baseball coach Scott Bradley (Bob's brother) and soccer coach Jim Barlow (who played for Bradley here and coaches the U.S. U-15 team).
If you want the contrarian view, there's always Rich Fisher's story in the Trentonian. And the comment at the bottom? Sort of harsh, no?
It's been 30 years since Bradley played at Princeton, and in that time, he's risen to become the national team coach for the world's biggest sporting event.
Is there a current Princeton athlete who will follow in Bradley's path? Will a current Princeton soccer player coach the U.S. team one day? Or be an NFL head coach in the Super Bowl? Or win the Stanley Cup from behind the bench? Who knows?
But Bradley has made it that far. Princeton has produced a lot of athletes who have gone into careers in coaching - and there are eight of them who are currently head coaches at their alma mater.
College basketball alone features any number of Princeton alums who are now coaches; it's a profession that has long been attractive to former Tigers.
But to have one of your own coach the U.S. national team at the World Cup? That's something unique, something special.
Every time TB sees Bradley on TV, he thinks back to his time covering Bradley's Princeton teams during his newspaper days and in his early days working here.
There was always something very special about Bob Bradley, but who could have ever predicted that the World Cup was in his future? Hey, if Major League Soccer had flopped - something Bradley had no control over - then Bradley might have ended up back in college coaching, and he probably never would have made it to the level he has.
Or, for that matter, had Jurgen Klinsmann taken the U.S. job, then where would Bradley be now?
None of that will be the issue tomorrow, when the U.S. takes on England to start its World Cup run. Bradley will be the man leading the way, and if you're a Princeton fan, you're pulling extra hard for the Americans.
After all, one of Princeton's own is leading them.
Good luck, Bob. We're all rooting for you.
Of the 32 countries who made it into the field, TigerBlog has been to 10, which is nearly a third of them. Unless you don't count France, since TB was only in the Paris airport as a stopover between New York and Tel Aviv.
In case you care, here are the other nine countries he's been to: the United States, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Mexico, Denmark and Greece.
If he had to pick one of the other countries to go to, he'd probably take Australia, though sitting for that long on a plane isn't exactly enticing. And if TB went to Australia, he'd probably stop off in New Zealand as well.
The last country of the 32 he'd want to go to? No offense to what are probably some fine restaurants in downtown Pyongyang, but TB will pass on North Korea.
TigerBlog thinks that Spain will win the World Cup, defeating either England or the Netherlands in the final (he'd be higher on the Netherlands if Arjen Robben's hamstring was fine); the fourth team in TB's final four will be Brazil. For the record, both TigerBlog Jr. and Little Miss TigerBlog have been to Brazil.
TB was in Spain and Ireland during the 2008 European championships, and unless you've experienced something like that first hand, you can't possibly imagine just how wild a scene that is. Even in Ireland, who wasn't in the tournament, it was hard to find someone who wasn't completely passionate about it.
In the United States, soccer is something of an afterthought as far as major sports go, even though it has come a long way in the last 20 years or so. And, as an aside, TB would be picking the U.S. team win the World Cup if all of the best American athletes played soccer instead of football, basketball and lacrosse.
Anyway, by now the connection between Princeton and the U.S. team is well-known. Bob Bradley, the U.S. coach, played at Princeton and then coached here, taking the Tigers to the 1993 Final Four. One of his assistant coaches is Jesse Marsch, who also played here; the team had its pre-World Cup training camp at Roberts Stadium.
There have been a ton of stories written about Bradley in the last few weeks, and each of them is great publicity for Princeton University and Princeton soccer. One of the better ones was on ESPN.com earlier this week.
These stories all paint Bradley as driven, and they all talk about his life as a kid and then at Princeton. In almost all of them, there have been quotes by Princeton baseball coach Scott Bradley (Bob's brother) and soccer coach Jim Barlow (who played for Bradley here and coaches the U.S. U-15 team).
If you want the contrarian view, there's always Rich Fisher's story in the Trentonian. And the comment at the bottom? Sort of harsh, no?
It's been 30 years since Bradley played at Princeton, and in that time, he's risen to become the national team coach for the world's biggest sporting event.
Is there a current Princeton athlete who will follow in Bradley's path? Will a current Princeton soccer player coach the U.S. team one day? Or be an NFL head coach in the Super Bowl? Or win the Stanley Cup from behind the bench? Who knows?
But Bradley has made it that far. Princeton has produced a lot of athletes who have gone into careers in coaching - and there are eight of them who are currently head coaches at their alma mater.
College basketball alone features any number of Princeton alums who are now coaches; it's a profession that has long been attractive to former Tigers.
But to have one of your own coach the U.S. national team at the World Cup? That's something unique, something special.
Every time TB sees Bradley on TV, he thinks back to his time covering Bradley's Princeton teams during his newspaper days and in his early days working here.
There was always something very special about Bob Bradley, but who could have ever predicted that the World Cup was in his future? Hey, if Major League Soccer had flopped - something Bradley had no control over - then Bradley might have ended up back in college coaching, and he probably never would have made it to the level he has.
Or, for that matter, had Jurgen Klinsmann taken the U.S. job, then where would Bradley be now?
None of that will be the issue tomorrow, when the U.S. takes on England to start its World Cup run. Bradley will be the man leading the way, and if you're a Princeton fan, you're pulling extra hard for the Americans.
After all, one of Princeton's own is leading them.
Good luck, Bob. We're all rooting for you.
Thursday, June 10, 2010
Donn's Year
TigerBlog was going to write the 2009-10 Princeton Athletics Year in Review the other day when this fact dawned on him: The year isn't over yet.
It won't end for Princeton Athletics until the last of Princeton's six competitors at the NCAA track and field championships in Oregon is finished. The latest that could be would be Saturday.
If TB is reading the calendar correctly, Saturday is June 12. The first athletic events of the 2009-10 season were back on Sept. 4, when the men's and women's soccer teams opened their seasons.
And, of course, it won't be all that long - a little more than two months from now - that the fall athletes will return to campus to begin preparations for the 2010-11 school year.
Princeton has more than 1,000 student-athletes, yet there is still quite a bit of drama left for the six who are still competing.
Princeton actually sent seven athletes to the track and field championships; it is the highest total Princeton has ever had qualify for the NCAAs.
Sophomore Donn Cabral ran the fastest time in qualifying in the steeplechase, and Cabral figures to go head-to-head with Matt Hughes of Louisville (fastest time in the season, second-fastest in qualifying, whereas Cabral had run the second-fastest time in the country prior to the championships) in tomorrow night's final.
TigerBlog has always thought the steeplechase was an interesting event, though his exposure to it was usually limited to seeing it in the Olympics. When TB walks around the Weaver Track on his way to the football stadium or the other side of campus, he often stops at the water jump for the steeplechase and thinks about how much it would stink to trip on the top of the hurdle and fall into the water.
Beyond that, TB never thought about the origins of the event. Before he went to Wikipedia a few minutes ago, he would have guessed - and been right - that there was some sort of British tradition to the steeplechase.
Cabral's time of 8:42.84 in the NCAA qualifying would have been, at least according to Wikipedia, the world record as late as 1955. Today, the world record is 7:53.63, nearly a minute faster than it was 55 years ago.
Cabral's year has been an interesting one, and it gives a pretty good insight into the physical nature of being a collegiate runner.
When you think of the physical toll playing sports can take on an athlete, you usually start with something like football or hockey. In reality, it's probably as demanding to be a distance runner as anything else an athlete can do.
Cabral's year, for instance, started way back in the fall in cross country season. The Glastonbury, Conn., native finished sixth at the Heptagonal championships, which was probably the toughest team moment of the year for any Princeton team, as the Tigers finished second in the league by one point to Columbia, which means that any one place change would have made the difference.
The indoor season saw him finish second at Heps in both the 3,000 and the 5,000 as Princeton won the men's (and women's) indoor team championships.
At outdoor Heps, where Princeton's men finished second, Cabral won a grueling individual double of the steeplechase and the 10,000, becoming the first Ivy athlete ever to win those two events at a single Heps.
He then ran a school record 8:35.60 at the NCAA regionals two weeks ago, giving him the second-fastest collegiate time and the sixth-fastest time overall in the country this year.
And now he has a good a chance as anyone to win the NCAA title. Should he be successful, he would be just the third outdoor individual champ in Princeton history, after legendary Tiger athletes William Bonthron (who won the 1934 mile) and Tora Harris (who won the 2002 high jump).
How many miles do you think he's run in training for these successes, and how hard has he had to push himself to achieve all this? Think that's easy?
While Cabral's year won't be over when even when the NCAAs end, as he has qualified for the U.S. championships as well, Princeton's 2009-10 athletics year ends with this weekend.
Writing the year in review? It'll have to wait until next week, because the lead may still not have happened yet, even after more than ninth months of competition.
It won't end for Princeton Athletics until the last of Princeton's six competitors at the NCAA track and field championships in Oregon is finished. The latest that could be would be Saturday.
If TB is reading the calendar correctly, Saturday is June 12. The first athletic events of the 2009-10 season were back on Sept. 4, when the men's and women's soccer teams opened their seasons.
And, of course, it won't be all that long - a little more than two months from now - that the fall athletes will return to campus to begin preparations for the 2010-11 school year.
Princeton has more than 1,000 student-athletes, yet there is still quite a bit of drama left for the six who are still competing.
Princeton actually sent seven athletes to the track and field championships; it is the highest total Princeton has ever had qualify for the NCAAs.
Sophomore Donn Cabral ran the fastest time in qualifying in the steeplechase, and Cabral figures to go head-to-head with Matt Hughes of Louisville (fastest time in the season, second-fastest in qualifying, whereas Cabral had run the second-fastest time in the country prior to the championships) in tomorrow night's final.
TigerBlog has always thought the steeplechase was an interesting event, though his exposure to it was usually limited to seeing it in the Olympics. When TB walks around the Weaver Track on his way to the football stadium or the other side of campus, he often stops at the water jump for the steeplechase and thinks about how much it would stink to trip on the top of the hurdle and fall into the water.
Beyond that, TB never thought about the origins of the event. Before he went to Wikipedia a few minutes ago, he would have guessed - and been right - that there was some sort of British tradition to the steeplechase.
Cabral's time of 8:42.84 in the NCAA qualifying would have been, at least according to Wikipedia, the world record as late as 1955. Today, the world record is 7:53.63, nearly a minute faster than it was 55 years ago.
Cabral's year has been an interesting one, and it gives a pretty good insight into the physical nature of being a collegiate runner.
When you think of the physical toll playing sports can take on an athlete, you usually start with something like football or hockey. In reality, it's probably as demanding to be a distance runner as anything else an athlete can do.
Cabral's year, for instance, started way back in the fall in cross country season. The Glastonbury, Conn., native finished sixth at the Heptagonal championships, which was probably the toughest team moment of the year for any Princeton team, as the Tigers finished second in the league by one point to Columbia, which means that any one place change would have made the difference.
The indoor season saw him finish second at Heps in both the 3,000 and the 5,000 as Princeton won the men's (and women's) indoor team championships.
At outdoor Heps, where Princeton's men finished second, Cabral won a grueling individual double of the steeplechase and the 10,000, becoming the first Ivy athlete ever to win those two events at a single Heps.
He then ran a school record 8:35.60 at the NCAA regionals two weeks ago, giving him the second-fastest collegiate time and the sixth-fastest time overall in the country this year.
And now he has a good a chance as anyone to win the NCAA title. Should he be successful, he would be just the third outdoor individual champ in Princeton history, after legendary Tiger athletes William Bonthron (who won the 1934 mile) and Tora Harris (who won the 2002 high jump).
How many miles do you think he's run in training for these successes, and how hard has he had to push himself to achieve all this? Think that's easy?
While Cabral's year won't be over when even when the NCAAs end, as he has qualified for the U.S. championships as well, Princeton's 2009-10 athletics year ends with this weekend.
Writing the year in review? It'll have to wait until next week, because the lead may still not have happened yet, even after more than ninth months of competition.
Wednesday, June 9, 2010
Taxi Driver
To FatherBlog, there are two kinds of people in the world: Those who live or work in New York City, and hicks.
TigerBlog has never really shared his father's love of the Big Apple, and TB in fact avoids going into the City as much as possible. Still, if he could be guaranteed of being in the Cash Cab, then he'd change his position.
For those who don't know, Cash Cab is a game show on the Discovery Channel. The premise is that a cab driver picks up unsuspecting passengers, informs them that they're on a game show and then takes them to their destination while asking them general knowledge questions.
Depending on the how smart the contestants are, they can win a few hundred or even a few thousand dollars before they get to the end of their ride. Or, if you get three questions wrong, you are let off wherever the cab is at that moment.
It's a fun show, and TB watches it every now and then.
One of those times was the other day, when there were two Princeton-related questions asked, and the two questions had direct ties to two men who are quite possibly the two greatest athletes in Princeton history.
The first was this one: "What novel was narrated by a character named Nick?"
The second was this: "What former New York Knick served three terms in the U.S. Senate?"
As an aside, there really is no such thing as a "hard" question on shows like Cash Cab or Jeopardy. There are only questions you know the answer to and questions you don't.
The answer to the first one, of course, is "The Great Gatsby," written by Princeton's own F. Scott Fitzgerald, Class of 1917. Nick is Gatsby's neighbor and the cousin of Daisy Buchanan; for those who didn't pay attention in high school, Daisy doesn't exactly end up having a great effect on Gatsby, for whom it doesn't really end well.
Daisy was married to Tom Buchanan, and Nick would describe them this way:
"They were careless people, Tom and Daisy. They smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, leaving others to clean up the mess they had made."
For the record, TB wrote that from memory. He could probably write down at least 50% of the book from memory, from the first line:
"In my younger and more vulnerable years, my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since."
... to the last line:
"and so we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past."
Fitzgerald, as mentioned above, was a 1917 graduate of Princeton, which placed him three years behind Hobey Baker. Fitzgerald was so in awe of Baker that in another of his novels, "This Side of Paradise," he named his main character Amory Blaine, after Baker's full name of Hobart Amory Hare Baker.
He also has another character in the novel, Allenby, who is Princeton's football captain: "There at the head of the white platoon marched Allenby, the football captain, slim and defiant, as if aware that this year the hopes of the college rested on him, that his hundred-and-sixty pounds were expected to dodge to victory through the heavy blue and crimson lines."
Clearly, he's talking about Hobey Baker, who played football and hockey at Princeton. TigerBlog has read (and written) a great deal about Baker, whose story is familiar as well: one of the great early college athletes, no professional sports, turned to flying, flew in World War I, died in a plane crash shortly after the war ended - possibly of his own doing.
Of everything that TB has ever seen about Baker, the best description was this, which has always stuck with TB: "Baker is the most romantic figure in the history of American college sports."
It's a great way to describe him. Romantic. As in something out of a novel, which, in the case of "This Side of Paradise," he is.
As for the other question, clearly Bill Bradley is the former Knick who went on to the U.S. Senate. Bradley scored 2,503 points in his Princeton career, playing only three varsity seasons with no three-point line. Since his graduation, the closest any player has come is Kit Mueller and his 1,546 career points, nearly 1,000 fewer.
TigerBlog grew up watching Bradley's Knicks teams, and he's still waiting for the team to win another NBA championship since the two that Bradley helped the team to in 1970 and 1973. Still, given his employer for the last 16 years, TB thinks of Princeton first when he thinks of Bradley.
Every now and then, TB stumbles across the basketball record book or any record book, and it makes him think of what Bradley did to Princeton's. It is possible that one day someone will come along and challenge some of his records, but TB would have to think it is unlikely.
As a reminder:
* Bradley is first all-time at Princeton in points and rebounds.
* Bradley had 11 games of at least 40 points; no other player in school history has ever scored at least 40 points in a game
* he still holds the record for most points scored in a Final Four game, with 58 against Wichita State in the 1965 consolation game
* he has the three highest single-season point totals and scoring average totals in school history
TB could go on and on with Bradley's records. Perhaps TB's favorite note about Bradley is that his career low, not career high but career low, was 16 points.
And there it was, the two Princeton references on the single episode of Cash Cab.
TB would have gotten both right, and who knows, maybe he would reach his destination with fewer than three strikes.
But would he take the video challenge for double of nothing? Who knows.
TigerBlog has never really shared his father's love of the Big Apple, and TB in fact avoids going into the City as much as possible. Still, if he could be guaranteed of being in the Cash Cab, then he'd change his position.
For those who don't know, Cash Cab is a game show on the Discovery Channel. The premise is that a cab driver picks up unsuspecting passengers, informs them that they're on a game show and then takes them to their destination while asking them general knowledge questions.
Depending on the how smart the contestants are, they can win a few hundred or even a few thousand dollars before they get to the end of their ride. Or, if you get three questions wrong, you are let off wherever the cab is at that moment.
It's a fun show, and TB watches it every now and then.
One of those times was the other day, when there were two Princeton-related questions asked, and the two questions had direct ties to two men who are quite possibly the two greatest athletes in Princeton history.
The first was this one: "What novel was narrated by a character named Nick?"
The second was this: "What former New York Knick served three terms in the U.S. Senate?"
As an aside, there really is no such thing as a "hard" question on shows like Cash Cab or Jeopardy. There are only questions you know the answer to and questions you don't.
The answer to the first one, of course, is "The Great Gatsby," written by Princeton's own F. Scott Fitzgerald, Class of 1917. Nick is Gatsby's neighbor and the cousin of Daisy Buchanan; for those who didn't pay attention in high school, Daisy doesn't exactly end up having a great effect on Gatsby, for whom it doesn't really end well.
Daisy was married to Tom Buchanan, and Nick would describe them this way:
"They were careless people, Tom and Daisy. They smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, leaving others to clean up the mess they had made."
For the record, TB wrote that from memory. He could probably write down at least 50% of the book from memory, from the first line:
"In my younger and more vulnerable years, my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since."
... to the last line:
"and so we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past."
Fitzgerald, as mentioned above, was a 1917 graduate of Princeton, which placed him three years behind Hobey Baker. Fitzgerald was so in awe of Baker that in another of his novels, "This Side of Paradise," he named his main character Amory Blaine, after Baker's full name of Hobart Amory Hare Baker.
He also has another character in the novel, Allenby, who is Princeton's football captain: "There at the head of the white platoon marched Allenby, the football captain, slim and defiant, as if aware that this year the hopes of the college rested on him, that his hundred-and-sixty pounds were expected to dodge to victory through the heavy blue and crimson lines."
Clearly, he's talking about Hobey Baker, who played football and hockey at Princeton. TigerBlog has read (and written) a great deal about Baker, whose story is familiar as well: one of the great early college athletes, no professional sports, turned to flying, flew in World War I, died in a plane crash shortly after the war ended - possibly of his own doing.
Of everything that TB has ever seen about Baker, the best description was this, which has always stuck with TB: "Baker is the most romantic figure in the history of American college sports."
It's a great way to describe him. Romantic. As in something out of a novel, which, in the case of "This Side of Paradise," he is.
As for the other question, clearly Bill Bradley is the former Knick who went on to the U.S. Senate. Bradley scored 2,503 points in his Princeton career, playing only three varsity seasons with no three-point line. Since his graduation, the closest any player has come is Kit Mueller and his 1,546 career points, nearly 1,000 fewer.
TigerBlog grew up watching Bradley's Knicks teams, and he's still waiting for the team to win another NBA championship since the two that Bradley helped the team to in 1970 and 1973. Still, given his employer for the last 16 years, TB thinks of Princeton first when he thinks of Bradley.
Every now and then, TB stumbles across the basketball record book or any record book, and it makes him think of what Bradley did to Princeton's. It is possible that one day someone will come along and challenge some of his records, but TB would have to think it is unlikely.
As a reminder:
* Bradley is first all-time at Princeton in points and rebounds.
* Bradley had 11 games of at least 40 points; no other player in school history has ever scored at least 40 points in a game
* he still holds the record for most points scored in a Final Four game, with 58 against Wichita State in the 1965 consolation game
* he has the three highest single-season point totals and scoring average totals in school history
TB could go on and on with Bradley's records. Perhaps TB's favorite note about Bradley is that his career low, not career high but career low, was 16 points.
And there it was, the two Princeton references on the single episode of Cash Cab.
TB would have gotten both right, and who knows, maybe he would reach his destination with fewer than three strikes.
But would he take the video challenge for double of nothing? Who knows.
Tuesday, June 8, 2010
The Wizard Of Ours
It had to be, what?, the fall of 1995 or maybe the winter of 1996, the day that Bill Carmody excitedly peaked his head into TigerBlog's office at said these words:
"The greatest college basketball player of all-time is using one of the urinals in our men's room."
TigerBlog knew in an instant what player Carmody was talking about. Sure enough, TB ventured into the bathroom, and there stood Bill Walton, whose son Nate would be a freshman at Princeton for the 1996-97 season.
As an aside, Nate Walton would miss one season due to injury and then become a first-team All-Ivy center in 2000-01, when John Thompson led an underdog Princeton team to the Ivy League title in his first season as head coach. It is TB's belief that Walton was robbed of the Ivy League Player of the Year award that year.
For anyone who is TB's age or older, the list of the greatest college basketball players of all-time begins with Bill Walton - or possibly David Thompson, the North Carolina State star whose team beat Walton's UCLA team 80-77 in two overtimes in the 1974 NCAA semifinals in what would be considered the greatest college basketball game ever had ESPN existed back then.
Walton - Bill, not Nate - was part of a UCLA dynasty that saw the Bruins win 10 NCAA championships in 12 years. Walton was part of an 88-game UCLA winning streak, one that ended with a loss at Notre Dame.
TigerBlog, like most kids in his age-group who were into sports, watched many of those great UCLA games on TV (which wasn't oversaturated with college basketball back then) and thinks back at them as being among the first sporting events he can remember seeing. TB clearly remembers watching the UCLA-N.C. State game at the house of his Aunt Regina and Uncle Larry, and he remembers seeing UCLA as it desperately tried to get a shot to fall in the final seconds of its loss to Notre Dame to end its long streak.
UCLA's coach through those years was of course John Wooden, the "Wizard of Westwood" who passed away last weekend at the age of 99. Wooden's history is familiar: the Indiana roots, the 10 national championships, the great teams, the attention to detail, the intensity, the persona, all of it. And, in the interest of full disclosure, the questions that might not have been asked about a UCLA booster's involvement in recruiting those great players.
When Wooden passed away, ESPN Classic immediately went to a Wooden marathon, and TB remembered watching many of those games when they were originally on.
But none of that was what TB thought about when the news about Wooden hit. Nope, TB's first thought was actually a question:
Was John Wooden a better coach than Pete Carril.
Wooden spent 27 years at UCLA, going 620-147 with the aforementioned 10 NCAA championships. Wooden, for those who don't know, also coached for two years at what was then called Indiana Teachers' College and is today known as Indiana State; Wooden was 44-15 in those two years before taking over at UCLA for the 1948-49 season.
Carril spent 29 years as the Princeton head coach, going 514-261 with no NCAA titles. He did win 13 Ivy League championships and take his team to 11 NCAA tournaments, and Princeton under Carril won the 1975 NIT.
So how is this even a debate? Well, TB thinks it's actually a great question. Does the coach make the program, or does the program make the coach?
UCLA back then had all kinds of advantages, beyond just whatever shady dealings there were to bring by far the best players to Westwood. Wooden won five of his 10 championships with either Walton or Lew Alcindor (who became Kareem Abdul Jabbar, for those who don't know) as his big man, for instance.
Back then, the Bruins needed to win only four games to win the NCAA title. The field was also truly regionalized, and the West was by far the weakest area. As such UCLA basically had an easy path to the Final Four each year.
And yes, for much of that time, only one team per league could make the NCAA field, so UCLA could have been derailed in its conference. But the Pacific Coast League (later the Pac 8, now the Pac 10, and soon the Pac 25) wasn't nearly as tough as the ACC, which routinely had two or three of the top five teams in the country.
Carril, on the other hand, had almost no shot of a national championship here at Princeton. And yet he endured for 29 seasons; only one other Princeton men's basketball coach (Cappy Cappon) lasted here for more than eight, and Cappon 1) coached five years, took off for three and then came back for 15 more and 2) died in the middle of his 20th season.
It seems almost ludicrous to suggest that Carril could be a better coach than Wooden based on their resumes, but that's not what TB is talking about here. No, he's talking about basketball coaching ability only.
In other words, had they switched places, what would their teams have looked like?
And this isn't limited to Carril and Wooden. Look at any number of Princeton's successful coaches versus their counterparts who routinely win national championships. Susan Teeter. Rob Orr. Peter Farrell and Fred Samara. Would they win national championships if they had the advantages of some of the top national programs? Of course they would.
Look at women's soccer. Anson Dorrance, the head coach at North Carolina, has won 20 of the 28 NCAA women's soccer championships awarded and has won nearly 95% of his games in 31 years. What if he switched places with Princeton coach Julie Shackford? Would anything be different for the two programs? If anything, Shackford would be more successful at UNC then Dorrance would be here.
So getting back to Wooden and Carril, the two went head-to-head twice, with two UCLA wins, both in years that the Bruins won national titles. The first was a 16-point UCLA win in the 1968 Holiday Festival.
The second was a year later, when the teams played at UCLA's Pauley Pavilion. Sidney Wicks hit a jump shot in the final seconds to give the Bruins a 76-75 win, despite 28 points from Geoff Petrie and 25 from John Hummer.
So who was better, Pete Carril or John Wooden? The fact that the question can even be asked says a lot about Carril.
"One day, I'll be dead," Carril once said. "Two guys will walk by my grave, and one will say to the other 'poor guy never won a national championship,' and I won't hear a word they say."
His point? Coaching is coaching, and stats don't necessarily tell you who is the best at it.
"The greatest college basketball player of all-time is using one of the urinals in our men's room."
TigerBlog knew in an instant what player Carmody was talking about. Sure enough, TB ventured into the bathroom, and there stood Bill Walton, whose son Nate would be a freshman at Princeton for the 1996-97 season.
As an aside, Nate Walton would miss one season due to injury and then become a first-team All-Ivy center in 2000-01, when John Thompson led an underdog Princeton team to the Ivy League title in his first season as head coach. It is TB's belief that Walton was robbed of the Ivy League Player of the Year award that year.
For anyone who is TB's age or older, the list of the greatest college basketball players of all-time begins with Bill Walton - or possibly David Thompson, the North Carolina State star whose team beat Walton's UCLA team 80-77 in two overtimes in the 1974 NCAA semifinals in what would be considered the greatest college basketball game ever had ESPN existed back then.
Walton - Bill, not Nate - was part of a UCLA dynasty that saw the Bruins win 10 NCAA championships in 12 years. Walton was part of an 88-game UCLA winning streak, one that ended with a loss at Notre Dame.
TigerBlog, like most kids in his age-group who were into sports, watched many of those great UCLA games on TV (which wasn't oversaturated with college basketball back then) and thinks back at them as being among the first sporting events he can remember seeing. TB clearly remembers watching the UCLA-N.C. State game at the house of his Aunt Regina and Uncle Larry, and he remembers seeing UCLA as it desperately tried to get a shot to fall in the final seconds of its loss to Notre Dame to end its long streak.
UCLA's coach through those years was of course John Wooden, the "Wizard of Westwood" who passed away last weekend at the age of 99. Wooden's history is familiar: the Indiana roots, the 10 national championships, the great teams, the attention to detail, the intensity, the persona, all of it. And, in the interest of full disclosure, the questions that might not have been asked about a UCLA booster's involvement in recruiting those great players.
When Wooden passed away, ESPN Classic immediately went to a Wooden marathon, and TB remembered watching many of those games when they were originally on.
But none of that was what TB thought about when the news about Wooden hit. Nope, TB's first thought was actually a question:
Was John Wooden a better coach than Pete Carril.
Wooden spent 27 years at UCLA, going 620-147 with the aforementioned 10 NCAA championships. Wooden, for those who don't know, also coached for two years at what was then called Indiana Teachers' College and is today known as Indiana State; Wooden was 44-15 in those two years before taking over at UCLA for the 1948-49 season.
Carril spent 29 years as the Princeton head coach, going 514-261 with no NCAA titles. He did win 13 Ivy League championships and take his team to 11 NCAA tournaments, and Princeton under Carril won the 1975 NIT.
So how is this even a debate? Well, TB thinks it's actually a great question. Does the coach make the program, or does the program make the coach?
UCLA back then had all kinds of advantages, beyond just whatever shady dealings there were to bring by far the best players to Westwood. Wooden won five of his 10 championships with either Walton or Lew Alcindor (who became Kareem Abdul Jabbar, for those who don't know) as his big man, for instance.
Back then, the Bruins needed to win only four games to win the NCAA title. The field was also truly regionalized, and the West was by far the weakest area. As such UCLA basically had an easy path to the Final Four each year.
And yes, for much of that time, only one team per league could make the NCAA field, so UCLA could have been derailed in its conference. But the Pacific Coast League (later the Pac 8, now the Pac 10, and soon the Pac 25) wasn't nearly as tough as the ACC, which routinely had two or three of the top five teams in the country.
Carril, on the other hand, had almost no shot of a national championship here at Princeton. And yet he endured for 29 seasons; only one other Princeton men's basketball coach (Cappy Cappon) lasted here for more than eight, and Cappon 1) coached five years, took off for three and then came back for 15 more and 2) died in the middle of his 20th season.
It seems almost ludicrous to suggest that Carril could be a better coach than Wooden based on their resumes, but that's not what TB is talking about here. No, he's talking about basketball coaching ability only.
In other words, had they switched places, what would their teams have looked like?
And this isn't limited to Carril and Wooden. Look at any number of Princeton's successful coaches versus their counterparts who routinely win national championships. Susan Teeter. Rob Orr. Peter Farrell and Fred Samara. Would they win national championships if they had the advantages of some of the top national programs? Of course they would.
Look at women's soccer. Anson Dorrance, the head coach at North Carolina, has won 20 of the 28 NCAA women's soccer championships awarded and has won nearly 95% of his games in 31 years. What if he switched places with Princeton coach Julie Shackford? Would anything be different for the two programs? If anything, Shackford would be more successful at UNC then Dorrance would be here.
So getting back to Wooden and Carril, the two went head-to-head twice, with two UCLA wins, both in years that the Bruins won national titles. The first was a 16-point UCLA win in the 1968 Holiday Festival.
The second was a year later, when the teams played at UCLA's Pauley Pavilion. Sidney Wicks hit a jump shot in the final seconds to give the Bruins a 76-75 win, despite 28 points from Geoff Petrie and 25 from John Hummer.
So who was better, Pete Carril or John Wooden? The fact that the question can even be asked says a lot about Carril.
"One day, I'll be dead," Carril once said. "Two guys will walk by my grave, and one will say to the other 'poor guy never won a national championship,' and I won't hear a word they say."
His point? Coaching is coaching, and stats don't necessarily tell you who is the best at it.
Monday, June 7, 2010
24
TigerBlog was going through his Saturday routine - which can be summed up in two words: "youth lacrosse" - when he received a text message from Craig Sachson, Princeton's rowing contact.
The message said simply "24."
It took TB less than a second to figure out what Sachson was talking about. His message - 24 - was an indication that Princeton's men's lightweight rowing team had won the IRA national championship.
Sure enough, that was in fact the case. For the record, Princeton broke the Cooper River course record with a time of 5:36.07, nearly one full second better than runner-up Navy.
For Princeton, it was the second straight men's lightweight national championship, accomplished with a boat that had only two seniors in it. One of them, Jack Leonard, shared the 2010 Roper Trophy as one of the top senior male athletes.
The win was a great one for the lightweight rowers themselves, and for first-year head coach Marty Crotty. Back in 1998, Crotty was one of the best rowers in the national championship heavyweight boat, making him one of the few people to win a national championship as a coach and athlete. That list is even shorter when you narrow it to doing it at the same school.
In fact, how long is that list at Princeton? Well, Crotty has now done it. Greg Hughes, who won two national champions as a lightweight rower and then coached the lightweight men to last year's national championship has done it.
Who else? Bob Callahan has done it in men's squash. Emily Goodfellow did it in women's squash.
TB thinks that's the whole list. Is he forgetting anyone?
Anyway, where were we? Oh yeah, the "24" text message. Sachson's point in the message was that the lightweights had won and therefore extended Princeton's streak of having at least one team or individual national champion to 24 straight years.
This time, it went pretty close to the wire. The only athletes left to compete for the 2009-10 academic year are track-and-field athletes at the NCAA finals, where an individual championship is a possibility but not exactly a sure thing.
Much has been made here about the streak of winning the Ivy League's unofficial all-sports points championship each of the last 24 years, and not as much has been said about having a national champ each year.
Still, it's a remarkable accomplishment for any school, especially a non-scholarship school. Yes, you could point out the obvious, that Princeton's national championship streak is confined to six sports, and Princeton starts out with a huge advantage in two of those.
The sports that make up the streak are rowing, squash, swimming, fencing, track and field and lacrosse. For a few years, the individual championships of Yasser El Halaby kept it going all by themselves.
Rowing and squash are smaller communities, as are fencing and lacrosse, for that matter. And Princeton should be ultra-competitive in those sports, given its tradition, facilities and expectations.
Still, to go 24 straight years without having one in which everyone came up a little short is remarkable. To be able to have at least one team or individual national champion for that long is an amazing streak.
So congratulations to the men's lightweight rowers.
And thanks to them, for bringing Princeton to 24 - and counting.
The message said simply "24."
It took TB less than a second to figure out what Sachson was talking about. His message - 24 - was an indication that Princeton's men's lightweight rowing team had won the IRA national championship.
Sure enough, that was in fact the case. For the record, Princeton broke the Cooper River course record with a time of 5:36.07, nearly one full second better than runner-up Navy.
For Princeton, it was the second straight men's lightweight national championship, accomplished with a boat that had only two seniors in it. One of them, Jack Leonard, shared the 2010 Roper Trophy as one of the top senior male athletes.
The win was a great one for the lightweight rowers themselves, and for first-year head coach Marty Crotty. Back in 1998, Crotty was one of the best rowers in the national championship heavyweight boat, making him one of the few people to win a national championship as a coach and athlete. That list is even shorter when you narrow it to doing it at the same school.
In fact, how long is that list at Princeton? Well, Crotty has now done it. Greg Hughes, who won two national champions as a lightweight rower and then coached the lightweight men to last year's national championship has done it.
Who else? Bob Callahan has done it in men's squash. Emily Goodfellow did it in women's squash.
TB thinks that's the whole list. Is he forgetting anyone?
Anyway, where were we? Oh yeah, the "24" text message. Sachson's point in the message was that the lightweights had won and therefore extended Princeton's streak of having at least one team or individual national champion to 24 straight years.
This time, it went pretty close to the wire. The only athletes left to compete for the 2009-10 academic year are track-and-field athletes at the NCAA finals, where an individual championship is a possibility but not exactly a sure thing.
Much has been made here about the streak of winning the Ivy League's unofficial all-sports points championship each of the last 24 years, and not as much has been said about having a national champ each year.
Still, it's a remarkable accomplishment for any school, especially a non-scholarship school. Yes, you could point out the obvious, that Princeton's national championship streak is confined to six sports, and Princeton starts out with a huge advantage in two of those.
The sports that make up the streak are rowing, squash, swimming, fencing, track and field and lacrosse. For a few years, the individual championships of Yasser El Halaby kept it going all by themselves.
Rowing and squash are smaller communities, as are fencing and lacrosse, for that matter. And Princeton should be ultra-competitive in those sports, given its tradition, facilities and expectations.
Still, to go 24 straight years without having one in which everyone came up a little short is remarkable. To be able to have at least one team or individual national champion for that long is an amazing streak.
So congratulations to the men's lightweight rowers.
And thanks to them, for bringing Princeton to 24 - and counting.
Friday, June 4, 2010
Any Other Questions For The Student-Athletes?
When TigerBlog arrived at Lot D for the men's lacrosse championships last weekend, the first two people he saw were Chuck and Eddie Timanus, who were getting out of their own car.
"Which one of you drove?" TigerBlog asked. The question drew chuckles for the Timanuses.
For those who don't know, Eddie Timanus is blind. Hasn't been able to see since he was 3.
TB would use a lot of words to describe Eddie; "handicapped" isn't one of them. Eddie Timanus is a sportswriter for USA Today, as well as the winner of a considerable amount of money as a five-time "Jeopardy" champion and a contestant on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?"
Chuck is Eddie's father, as well a grad of Cortland State (Bill Tierney's alma mater) who has ties to Georgetown (where John Thompson is the coach), which makes him okay with TB. After parking, the Timanuses went to the stadium store and bought a t-shirt for Eddie's six-year-old son.
They are quite a pair, Chuck and Eddie. They are usually at the center of all conversations in the press box, and it's not long before one or both is either laughing or making everyone else laugh.
The press box at M&T Bank Stadium last weekend was filled with familiar faces, not just Eddie's and Chuck's. Everywhere TB looked, he saw someone he's known for years, dating back to his own newspaper days.
There was Christian Swezey, who fits in well with the Timanus crowd. Like them, Swezey is extraordinarily nice and quick to laugh, and he somehow seems to be up on the latest news in the lives of everyone in the press box. He doesn't just say "hey, how are you" or "what's new;" instead, he is that rarest of people who actually wants to know how you are and what's new.
There was Gary Lambrecht, who is more the quintessential sportswriter, with a bit of an edge to him.
There was Dana O'Neil, the wife of Princeton athletic trainer George O'Neil. TigerBlog actually fixed George and Dana up; there are currently two married couples who owe it all to TB.
It was good to see all of them. Always is.
The interesting part to TB about seeing all of these people - as well as many others - came when they were in the postgame interview area. TigerBlog-Baltimore served as the moderator for the room, and if there was a hall of fame for press conference moderators, TB-Baltimore would definitely be in it.
Anyway, TB-Baltimore asked all of the media people to say their name and affiliation before asking their questions. Unlike, say, 10 years ago, when everyone was at a newspaper, almost everyone who asked a question was from an online publication, including Christian, Gary and Dana.
It's not exactly Earth-shattering news to learn that newspapers aren't what they once where and that online sites are dominating sports media these days. Still, to have it reinforced so clearly caught TB's attention.
It wasn't that long ago that the NCAA wouldn't have credentialed bloggers or on-line writers. Now the press box is dominated by them.
TB saw this when Princeton hosted the quarterfinals; almost no requests were made by newspapers. On the other hand, TB did receive multiple requests from laxpower.com and lax.com, two sites that offer all kinds of content, photos and, especially laxpower, fan interaction. Neither has any need for even one piece of paper.
Even the newspaper reporters who were in Baltimore - say, Dave Rahme of the Post-Standard who was covering Le Moyne in the DII final - are writing as much for the paper's website as anything that will be in print.
And none of that includes Inside Lacrosse, the organization that currently dominates lacrosse media coverage. Inside Lacrosse still prints its magazine, but it also updates its website every day. TB isn't sure how many credentials IL got for the Final Four, but there were a ton of writers there from the publication there, all doing different tasks, from in-game blogging to postgame write-ups to behind-the-scenes stories and video interviews and so on.
Of course, the point to all of this isn't just related to the changing media. It's also related to how this changing media has led directly to the growth of lacrosse.
The internet and television brought lacrosse to everyone in the country, not just to the traditional hotspots of Baltimore, Long Island and Syracuse. Today Division I rosters have players from all over the country. And how did they get into the sport? They saw it online, just like kids from Baltimore.
TigerBlog is fascinated by how much the profession he got into nearly 30 years ago has evolved and will continue to evolve.
It's something he has written about a great deal, and he will continue to do so, so clearly his radar is up on the subject.
Still, every now and then something happens to reinforce it, and last week's experience at the Final Four was one of them.
It's a whole new world. TigerBlog loves to see it, but he also will always love the good old days.
"Which one of you drove?" TigerBlog asked. The question drew chuckles for the Timanuses.
For those who don't know, Eddie Timanus is blind. Hasn't been able to see since he was 3.
TB would use a lot of words to describe Eddie; "handicapped" isn't one of them. Eddie Timanus is a sportswriter for USA Today, as well as the winner of a considerable amount of money as a five-time "Jeopardy" champion and a contestant on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?"
Chuck is Eddie's father, as well a grad of Cortland State (Bill Tierney's alma mater) who has ties to Georgetown (where John Thompson is the coach), which makes him okay with TB. After parking, the Timanuses went to the stadium store and bought a t-shirt for Eddie's six-year-old son.
They are quite a pair, Chuck and Eddie. They are usually at the center of all conversations in the press box, and it's not long before one or both is either laughing or making everyone else laugh.
The press box at M&T Bank Stadium last weekend was filled with familiar faces, not just Eddie's and Chuck's. Everywhere TB looked, he saw someone he's known for years, dating back to his own newspaper days.
There was Christian Swezey, who fits in well with the Timanus crowd. Like them, Swezey is extraordinarily nice and quick to laugh, and he somehow seems to be up on the latest news in the lives of everyone in the press box. He doesn't just say "hey, how are you" or "what's new;" instead, he is that rarest of people who actually wants to know how you are and what's new.
There was Gary Lambrecht, who is more the quintessential sportswriter, with a bit of an edge to him.
There was Dana O'Neil, the wife of Princeton athletic trainer George O'Neil. TigerBlog actually fixed George and Dana up; there are currently two married couples who owe it all to TB.
It was good to see all of them. Always is.
The interesting part to TB about seeing all of these people - as well as many others - came when they were in the postgame interview area. TigerBlog-Baltimore served as the moderator for the room, and if there was a hall of fame for press conference moderators, TB-Baltimore would definitely be in it.
Anyway, TB-Baltimore asked all of the media people to say their name and affiliation before asking their questions. Unlike, say, 10 years ago, when everyone was at a newspaper, almost everyone who asked a question was from an online publication, including Christian, Gary and Dana.
It's not exactly Earth-shattering news to learn that newspapers aren't what they once where and that online sites are dominating sports media these days. Still, to have it reinforced so clearly caught TB's attention.
It wasn't that long ago that the NCAA wouldn't have credentialed bloggers or on-line writers. Now the press box is dominated by them.
TB saw this when Princeton hosted the quarterfinals; almost no requests were made by newspapers. On the other hand, TB did receive multiple requests from laxpower.com and lax.com, two sites that offer all kinds of content, photos and, especially laxpower, fan interaction. Neither has any need for even one piece of paper.
Even the newspaper reporters who were in Baltimore - say, Dave Rahme of the Post-Standard who was covering Le Moyne in the DII final - are writing as much for the paper's website as anything that will be in print.
And none of that includes Inside Lacrosse, the organization that currently dominates lacrosse media coverage. Inside Lacrosse still prints its magazine, but it also updates its website every day. TB isn't sure how many credentials IL got for the Final Four, but there were a ton of writers there from the publication there, all doing different tasks, from in-game blogging to postgame write-ups to behind-the-scenes stories and video interviews and so on.
Of course, the point to all of this isn't just related to the changing media. It's also related to how this changing media has led directly to the growth of lacrosse.
The internet and television brought lacrosse to everyone in the country, not just to the traditional hotspots of Baltimore, Long Island and Syracuse. Today Division I rosters have players from all over the country. And how did they get into the sport? They saw it online, just like kids from Baltimore.
TigerBlog is fascinated by how much the profession he got into nearly 30 years ago has evolved and will continue to evolve.
It's something he has written about a great deal, and he will continue to do so, so clearly his radar is up on the subject.
Still, every now and then something happens to reinforce it, and last week's experience at the Final Four was one of them.
It's a whole new world. TigerBlog loves to see it, but he also will always love the good old days.
Thursday, June 3, 2010
Perfectly Logical
Empathy is not exactly TigerBlog's best thing. Still, he couldn't help but feel for Detroit Tiger pitcher Armando Galarraga after what happened last night.
By now, everyone knows the story. Galarraga set down the first 26 Cleveland Indians he faced last night and was one out from a perfect game. Jason Donald hit a ground ball between first and second that Miguel Cabrera fielded and tossed to Galarraga, who was covering first. Though Donald was clearly out by a full step, umpire Jim Joyce called him safe.
Of course, the video confirms that Donald was out and that Galarraga should have had a perfect game. Instead, Galaragga had to settle for a one-hit shutout; more importantly, it's unlikely that he will approach a perfect game again in his career.
As an aside, did you notice how well Galaragga seemed to take it? He gave Joyce a quick smile of disbelief and then went back to pitch.
TigerBlog is a staunch opponent of the use of instant replay in games, not because of the ability of replay to show mistakes by officials but because of how it is applied. If anything has ever confirmed this for TB, it's what happened last night.
Replay in sports should correct egregious mistakes like the one last night, not be used to go frame-by-frame to try to find some possible reason to change a call and in the process destroy the flow of a game as in football or give the refs a chance to be the center of attention as in basketball.
Still, in this case, it's obvious what Major League Baseball should do, for everyone's sake. Joyce, for instance, immediately said that he blew the call after watching it on instant replay. Does MLB really want Joyce, by all accounts a fine umpire, to be haunted by this?
No, what Major League Baseball should do is say that Donald was out, the next at-bat never happened and Galarraga has a perfect game. After all, that's exactly what happened.
If sports can ever figure out a way to have replay correct such situations, then TB would be all for it.
The recent NCAA men's lacrosse tournament experimented with instant replay in a pretty good way. Each Division I game, and the DII and DIII finals, had a monitor at midfield, and there would be an automatic review of any goal scored in the final two seconds of a quarter.
TB saw in person six of the 16 DI games and the DII and DIII championship games, and in those eight games, which involved 32 quarters, only once was replay used. That was at halftime of the DII game, at which Matt Chadderdon of Le Moyne rocketed a no-look shot into the goal.
From watching it in person, it appeared that the goal did not beat the horn. In watching it on replay, it clearly didn't. End of discussion.
There was no need to stop the game in mid-quarter to review something that ultimately wouldn't impact the outcome anyway, another of TB's replay peeves. Does a first down in the second quarter really make the difference in a game? No, it doesn't.
Maybe the lacrosse model is a good one. Only review scoring plays at the very end of a quarter.
One event that is begging for trouble is the World Cup, which has no use of replay. TB would use replay on that level on every single goal scored in order to make sure nobody gets robbed when they were clearly offsides or something similar or, as was the case in qualifying, that a handball doesn't vault France in ahead of Ireland.
The call in the Tigers' game last night got TB thinking about any similar situations for another group of Tigers, the Princeton Tigers. Have there been any simply awful calls that TB could think of from Princeton events?
In fairness to the officials who call games here, TB could think of very few. Oh, there was the night at Temple when Will Venable's drive as time expired was clearly goaltended, and the non-whistle left the Tigers on the wrong end of a two-point game instead of headed to overtime.
And TB can think of some nights when the officiating has been inconsistent or flat-out bad. Still, he can't think of too many times when the refs have made one specific call that has completely impacted the outcome.
Back when TB was at the newspaper, he covered a Trenton State-Stockton State New Jersey Athletic Conference men's basketball playoff game. TSC needed the game to get into the NCAA tournament, as TB recalls, or perhaps it was the last game of the regular season and TSC needed it to get into the NJAC tournament.
Either way, a guy named Charles Dudley hit a jump shot seemingly as time expired to give TSC a one-point lead, a shot that resulted in a massive celebration as Dudley was mobbed on the court by his teammates.
Except for one problem. The refs ruled that Stockton had called timeout and put some fraction of a second back on the clock (this was before the clock stopped on a made basket in the final minute; TB swears there was no time on the clock when Dudley's shot went in anyway). Then they called every TSC player who left the bench and came onto the court to celebrate for a technical foul. The result was chaos and a Stockton win.
Afterwards, TSC coach Donnie Marsh - as nice a guy as TB has ever met - said that he disagreed with the call but that you can't put yourself in position to let the refs impact the outcome of a game.
After the DII men's lacrosse final, TB walked to the parking lot with the ref who had made the split-second call of no-goal at the end of the first half. TB complimented him on making the right call, and he laughed and said something along the lines of "we usually do."
He's right. And when they don't, replay can be used to correct the mistake. It's just that it in its current application, replay use in sports is a disaster.
A good start in the right direction would be giving Galarraga his perfect game. After all, he earned it.
By now, everyone knows the story. Galarraga set down the first 26 Cleveland Indians he faced last night and was one out from a perfect game. Jason Donald hit a ground ball between first and second that Miguel Cabrera fielded and tossed to Galarraga, who was covering first. Though Donald was clearly out by a full step, umpire Jim Joyce called him safe.
Of course, the video confirms that Donald was out and that Galarraga should have had a perfect game. Instead, Galaragga had to settle for a one-hit shutout; more importantly, it's unlikely that he will approach a perfect game again in his career.
As an aside, did you notice how well Galaragga seemed to take it? He gave Joyce a quick smile of disbelief and then went back to pitch.
TigerBlog is a staunch opponent of the use of instant replay in games, not because of the ability of replay to show mistakes by officials but because of how it is applied. If anything has ever confirmed this for TB, it's what happened last night.
Replay in sports should correct egregious mistakes like the one last night, not be used to go frame-by-frame to try to find some possible reason to change a call and in the process destroy the flow of a game as in football or give the refs a chance to be the center of attention as in basketball.
Still, in this case, it's obvious what Major League Baseball should do, for everyone's sake. Joyce, for instance, immediately said that he blew the call after watching it on instant replay. Does MLB really want Joyce, by all accounts a fine umpire, to be haunted by this?
No, what Major League Baseball should do is say that Donald was out, the next at-bat never happened and Galarraga has a perfect game. After all, that's exactly what happened.
If sports can ever figure out a way to have replay correct such situations, then TB would be all for it.
The recent NCAA men's lacrosse tournament experimented with instant replay in a pretty good way. Each Division I game, and the DII and DIII finals, had a monitor at midfield, and there would be an automatic review of any goal scored in the final two seconds of a quarter.
TB saw in person six of the 16 DI games and the DII and DIII championship games, and in those eight games, which involved 32 quarters, only once was replay used. That was at halftime of the DII game, at which Matt Chadderdon of Le Moyne rocketed a no-look shot into the goal.
From watching it in person, it appeared that the goal did not beat the horn. In watching it on replay, it clearly didn't. End of discussion.
There was no need to stop the game in mid-quarter to review something that ultimately wouldn't impact the outcome anyway, another of TB's replay peeves. Does a first down in the second quarter really make the difference in a game? No, it doesn't.
Maybe the lacrosse model is a good one. Only review scoring plays at the very end of a quarter.
One event that is begging for trouble is the World Cup, which has no use of replay. TB would use replay on that level on every single goal scored in order to make sure nobody gets robbed when they were clearly offsides or something similar or, as was the case in qualifying, that a handball doesn't vault France in ahead of Ireland.
The call in the Tigers' game last night got TB thinking about any similar situations for another group of Tigers, the Princeton Tigers. Have there been any simply awful calls that TB could think of from Princeton events?
In fairness to the officials who call games here, TB could think of very few. Oh, there was the night at Temple when Will Venable's drive as time expired was clearly goaltended, and the non-whistle left the Tigers on the wrong end of a two-point game instead of headed to overtime.
And TB can think of some nights when the officiating has been inconsistent or flat-out bad. Still, he can't think of too many times when the refs have made one specific call that has completely impacted the outcome.
Back when TB was at the newspaper, he covered a Trenton State-Stockton State New Jersey Athletic Conference men's basketball playoff game. TSC needed the game to get into the NCAA tournament, as TB recalls, or perhaps it was the last game of the regular season and TSC needed it to get into the NJAC tournament.
Either way, a guy named Charles Dudley hit a jump shot seemingly as time expired to give TSC a one-point lead, a shot that resulted in a massive celebration as Dudley was mobbed on the court by his teammates.
Except for one problem. The refs ruled that Stockton had called timeout and put some fraction of a second back on the clock (this was before the clock stopped on a made basket in the final minute; TB swears there was no time on the clock when Dudley's shot went in anyway). Then they called every TSC player who left the bench and came onto the court to celebrate for a technical foul. The result was chaos and a Stockton win.
Afterwards, TSC coach Donnie Marsh - as nice a guy as TB has ever met - said that he disagreed with the call but that you can't put yourself in position to let the refs impact the outcome of a game.
After the DII men's lacrosse final, TB walked to the parking lot with the ref who had made the split-second call of no-goal at the end of the first half. TB complimented him on making the right call, and he laughed and said something along the lines of "we usually do."
He's right. And when they don't, replay can be used to correct the mistake. It's just that it in its current application, replay use in sports is a disaster.
A good start in the right direction would be giving Galarraga his perfect game. After all, he earned it.
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